How does Zombification occur?

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Permalink Reply by FreAkSh☭w on June 26, 2009 at 11:39pm

i think that it is caused by a virus. the virus is transmitted only through blood or bite. once the virus is in the blood stream it goes straight to the brain. once in the brain it will start the process of slowly killing the host. After the victim has died the virus takes control of the brain and reanimates the body. it does not rely on any of the bodily functions.

Permalink Reply by The Dread Pirate Boodrow on June 27, 2009 at 5:39pm

It is a man made virus that is known as "Narcissus".
It first appeared in 1944 Romania. A Combined Allied raid put a stop to it.

It was reborn back in 1988 at Deep Core Project in Antarctica. A Corp. by the name of Roanoke/Suh-tek
engineered it to see what effects it would have on people in a confined space in a hostile environment.
They are in to food processing as well as others Money making fields.

They put the shit in pre-processed food that was being served to personal at the project with a small control group getting pure or untainted food stuffs.

About 20% died due to food poisoning. Remaining 80% turned homicidal.
They had acquired new and bizzarre eating habits.
Each other. And they enjoyed every minute of it.

Maybe it was food. Maybe it due to dark influences from the ruins on the shore of Lake Vostok.
Whoever designed the place had H.P. Lovecraft in mind.

What I do know is that the control group, which I was part of had the untainted food.
We suffered no ill affects that we know of.
The other group had had other ideas.

That group knew who was one of their own and who was not!!
They started to hunt down other survivors for food.
We fought them off with what few weapons we had. Didn't do any damn good.

About an hour later any that had not been head shot came back to life.
Couldn't let them bite you. The virus is transmitted that way. Scratches aren't good either.
You might have three hours, four tops before you turn into a zombie.

A small detachment of troops from the U.N. had been sent to safe guard any relics that had been discovered.
They were the first get eaten by what we now call "Reavers".
I had retrieved some grenade launchers and used them to fight off these murdering ass-holes.

Only about 15 people survived the ordeal. That I know of.

Only 15 got out from under the ice pack. There were many more that did not.

As far as I know, they are still down in that frozen rat-hole.
I don't think that they're dead or undead either.

They 're just down there. Stumbling in the dark.

Permalink Reply by KOMRAD RHINO☭ on June 27, 2009 at 7:16pm

i do feel it is a virus. however i think in order to get the first zombie to start the outbreak with, another set of conditions must happen. like parasitic in nature. after all, a zombie doesn't happen out of the clear blue so it must have a trigger. what it would be though at this point is any mans guess. but once the first one is made, it is then a carrier of the virus and spreads it by bite or mixing of blood or saliva with a healthy persons bodily fluids provided they escape and are not totally eaten. after all, to say "if they live" is a moot point once infected because the virus is 100% fatal of course. so when it comes down to it, we should find a means of making an anti virus for the people from the base virus. much like the flu or the common cold. but to do this, one must find what weakness the virus has and work from there. also i would want to know what the conditions would have to be to make the first zombie in the first place. reason being to make sure the anti virus works on all levals and not just one basic level though basic is a start. i think i order to get a start, it must act like a parasite first. parasitic germs and bacteria are not at all unheard of in nature. so the anti virus must be strong enough to kill both the parasitic and the viral aspect of zombieism. that is when it is proven a fact and not a theory that is. right now all this is, right along with anyone else's theory and or conjecture, is just that. theory and conjecture.

Permalink Reply by FreAkSh☭w on June 27, 2009 at 10:28pm

this is extremely interesting information and will be tested in the lab to confirm any factual information.

Permalink Reply by redrum99 on June 28, 2009 at 1:58pm

their are man made viruses that mimic the zombie effect.
we also have a tech/nano possiblity, nanos would be programed to shut down the higher brain functions...reducing the subject to primal needs.

then there is my fav...the good old voo doo zombies.
these sorry lots where brought back thru black magic means, and under the complete control of the basturd that trapped the dead soul in a prison of rotting flesh.

of the three i fell most sorry for the voo doo zombie...no will, unending pain..and no escape..

Permalink Reply by FreAkSh☭w on June 29, 2009 at 12:02am

interesting theories

Permalink Reply by FreAkSh☭w on June 29, 2009 at 3:26am

very convincing. thanks, your information will be tested in the lab

Permalink Reply by The Dread Pirate Boodrow on June 29, 2009 at 6:42pm

Parasites usually work only in Jersey.
There was some testing in New Mexico back in 1999.
Object of testing was to see if the prison inmates could be made more docile as to reduce violence in area prisons

They did use "Narcissus". About 20% died due to virus injection.
70% became homicidal killers
They were shot of coarse. And some did come back to life about three hours later.
Just as homicidal and harder to kill. You need head shots to bring them down.

The military became very interested.
10% became dreamers. They just stared at the walls or a window. Don't try to get their attention.
Those that did were torn to shreds.
These are the most dangerous and need to kill asap!!

Dreamers when left alone will start to exude a goo that covers their bodies. Like a cocoon.
A Fucking cocoon!!!

These turds started to mutate in some serious deformed monsters.
Much harder to kill than regular zombies.

The Military Got Extremely interested!!!

With freaks like these on the loose, who the hell needs enemies??

Military turds thought that these freaks could be used to patrol our border with Mexico.
If successful , then they could be used against our enemies in other parts of the world.

Well, they didn't learn from history nor from what the Nazis tried to do in 1944 Romania.
They lost containment and the experiment had to be scrapped!!

The people who they had experiment on turned on their makers and started to eat them.
It was at this time they discovered that the virus had mutated. It was no longer nessesary to be inoculated, all you had to do was get bit!!
Narcissus had turned into a rabies like virus.

Military had no choice but to destroy everything and anything[anyone] involved with the project.

News Papers reported that a new nuke had been tested underground and that the testing facilities had suffered severe damaged and had to close off the area.
All this happened on White Sands Missile base.

Only reason I got away that I hauled ass and ran down some fucks who were blocking the road out.
I, and four good friends hid out on the Navaho Reservation along with James Two Hawks..

He took us to his grandfather's place near the infamous Haunted Mesa.
Stayed there for eight weeks.

Trust me. Don't ever work for the Government. They Can and Will throw your ass under the fucking bus!!

Permalink Reply by FreAkSh☭w on June 30, 2009 at 12:17am

well interesting information, but i need to know more about the virus and less about your adventure. but great job anyway.

Permalink Reply by redrum99 on June 30, 2009 at 5:08pm

5 Scientific Reasons a Zombie Apocalypse Could Actually Happen (taken from cracked.com)

We found out recently that if you try to leave a little kid in a graveyard late at night, he'll freak out. Even if you offer to leave him a gun to protect himself. Why? It's because on some instinctual level, all humans know it's just a matter of time until the zombies show up.

Our culture is full of tales of the undead walking the Earth, from our religions to our comic books. But, some sort of zombie apocalypse isn't actually possible, right?

Right?

Guys?

Actually, yes. It's quite possible. Here's five ways it could happen, according to science
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#5.Brain Parasites
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Parasites that turn victims into mindless, zombie-like slaves are fairly common in nature. There's one called toxoplasmosa gondii that seems to devote its entire existence to being terrifying.

This bug infects rats, but can only breed inside the intestines of a cat. The parasite knows it needs to get the rat inside the cat (yes, we realize this sounds like the beginning of the most fucked-up Dr. Seuss poem ever) so the parasite takes over the rat's freaking brain, and intentionally makes it scurry toward where the cats hang out. The rat is being programmed to get itself eaten, and it doesn't even know.

Of course, those are just rats, right?

Hey, did we mention that half the human population on Earth is infected with toxoplasmosa, and don't know it? Hey, maybe you're one of them. Flip a coin.

Oh, also, they've done studies and shown that the infected see a change in their personality and have a higher chance of going batshit insane.
Humans and rats aren't all that different; thats why they use them to test our drugs. All it takes is a more evolved version of toxoplasmosa, one that could to do us what it does to the rats. So, imagine if half the world suddenly had no instinct for self-preservation or rational thought. Even less than they do now, we mean.
If you're comforting yourself with the thought that it may take forever for such a parasite to evolve, you're forgetting about all the biological weapons programs around the world, intentionally weaponizing such bugs. You've got to wonder if the lab workers don't carry out their work under the unwitting command of the toxoplasmosa gondii already in their brains. If you don't want to sleep at night, that is.

You may be protesting that technically these people have never been dead and thus don't fit the dictionary definition of "zombies," but we can assure you that the distinction won't matter a whole lot once these groaning hordes are clawing their way through your windows.
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#4.Neurotoxins
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There are certain kinds of poisons that slow your bodily functions to the point that you'll be considered dead, even to a doctor (okay, maybe not to a good doctor). The poison from fugu (Japanese blowfish) can do this.

The victims can then be brought back under the effects of a drug like datura stramonium (or other chemicals called alkaloids) that leave them in a trance-like state with no memory, but still able to perform simple tasks like eating, sleeping, moaning and shambling around with their arms outstretched.
This stuff has happened in Haiti; that's where the word "zombie" comes from. There are books about it, the most famous ones by Dr. Wade Davis (Passage of Darkness and The Serpent and the Rainbow). Yes, the movie The Serpent and the Rainbow was based on this guy's actual science stuff. How much of it was fact? Well, there was that one scene where they strapped the guy naked to a chair and drove a huge spike through his balls. We're hoping that part wasn't true.
What is definitely true is the story of Clairvius Narcisse. He was a Haitian guy who was declared dead by two doctors and buried in 1962. They found him wandering around the village 18 years later. It turned out the local voodoo priests had been using naturally occurring chemicals to basically zombify people and putting them to work on the sugar plantations (no, really).

So, the next time you're pouring a little packet of sugar into your coffee, remember that it may have been handled by a zombie at some point.
On the one hand, it's already fucking happened! So that earns it some street cred right off the bat. But, even if some evil genius intentionally distributed alkaloid toxins to a population to turn them into a shambling, mindless horde, there is no way to make these zombies aggressive or cannabalistic.




Yet.

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#3.The Real Rage Virus
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In the movie, it was a virus that turned human beings into mindless killing machines. In real life, we have a series of brain disorders that do the same thing. They were never contagious, of course. Then, Mad Cow Disease came along. It attacks the cow's spinal cord and brain, turning it into a stumbling, mindless attack cow.

And, when humans eat the meat ...
When Mad Cow gets in humans, they call it Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. Check out the symptoms:


Changes in gait (walking)
Hallucinations
Lack of coordination (for example, stumbling and falling)
Muscle twitching
Myoclonic jerks or seizures
Rapidly developing delirium or dementia

Sure, the disease is rare (though maybe not as rare as we think) and the afflicted aren't known to chase after people in murderous mobs. Yet.

But, it proves widespread brain infections of the Rage variety are just a matter of waiting for the right disease to come along.
If the whole sudden, mindless violence idea seems far-fetched, remember that you are just one brain chemical (serotonin) away from turning into a mindless killing machine (they've tested it by putting rats in Deathmatch-style cages and watching them turn on each other). All it would take is a disease that destroys the brain's ability to absorb that one chemical and suddenly it's a real-world 28 Days Later.

So, imagine such an evolved disease, which we'll call Super Mad Cow (or, Madder Cow) getting a foothold through the food supply. Say this disease spreads through blood-on-blood contact, or saliva-on-blood contact. Now you have a Rage-type virus that can be transmitted with a bite.
Just like the movie. With one bite, you're suddenly the worst kind of zombie:

A fast zombie
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#2.Neurogenesis
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You know all that conversy out there about stem cell research? Well, the whole thing with stem cells is that they can basically be used to re-generate dead cells. Particularly of interest to zombologists like ourselves is neurogenesis, the method by which they can re-grow dead brain tissue.

You can see where this is going
You wanted the undead to make an appearance in this article? Well, here you go, you creepy bastards.

Science can pretty much save you from anything but brain death; they can swap out organs but when the brain turns to mush, you're gone. Right?

Well, not for long. They're already able to re-grow the brains of comatose head trauma patients until they wake up and walk around again.
Couple that with the new ability to keep a dead body in a state of suspended animation so that it can be brought back to life later, and soon we'll be able to bring back the dead, as long as we get to them quickly enough.

That sounds great, right? Well, this lab dedicated to "reanimation research" (yes, that's what they call it) explains how the process of "reanimating" a person creates a problem. It causes the brain to die off from the outside in. The outside being the cortex, the nice part of you that makes humans human. That just leaves the part that controls basic motor function and primitive instincts behind
You don't need the cortex to survive; all you need is the stem and you'll still be able to mindlessly walk and eat and enjoy Grey's Anatomy. This is how chickens can keep walking around after they've been beheaded (including one case where the chicken lived for 18 months without a head).

So, you take a brain dead patient, use these techniques to re-grow the brain stem, and you now have a mindless body shambling around, no thoughts and no personality, nothing but a cloud of base instincts and impulses.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is what we like to call a real, live, undead fucking zombie. So there
Think about it. Under every legal system in the world, all rights and responsibilities are terminated at death. All it takes is someone with resources and a need for a mindless workforce of totally obedient slave labor.

How long until somebody tries this? We're betting somebody in the world, maybe North Korea, will have a working zombie by Christmas
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#1.Nanobots
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Nanobots are a technology that science apparently engineered to make you terrified of the future. We're talking about microscopic, self-replicating robots that can invisbily build--or destroy--anything. Vast sums of money are being poured into nanotechnology. Sure, at some level scientists know nanobots will destroy mankind. They just can't resist seeing how it happens.
Scientists have already created a nano-cyborg, by fusing a tiny silicone chip to a virus. The first thing they found out is these cyborgs can still operate for up to a month after the death of the host. Notice how nano scientists went right for zombification, even at this early stage. They know where the horror is.

According to studies, within a decade they'll have nanobots that can crawl inside your brain and set up neural connections to replace damaged ones. That's right; the nanobots will be able to rewire your thoughts. What could possibly go wrong?

Chances this could cause a zombie apocalypse:
Do the math, people.

Some day there will be nanobots in your brain. Those nanobots will be programmed to keep functioning after you die. They can form their own neural pathways, meaning they can use your brain to keep operating your limbs after you've deceased and, presumably, right up until you rot to pieces in mid-stride.
The nanobots will be programmed to self-replicate, and the death of the host will mean the end of the nanobots. To preserve themselves, they'd need to transfer to a new host. Therefore, the last act of the nanobot zombie would be to bite a hole in a healthy victim, letting the nanobots stream in and set up camp in the new host. Once in, they can shut down the part of the brain that resists (the cortex) and leave the brain stem intact. They will have added a new member to the unholy army of the undead.
Now, it should be more than clear by this point that our goal is to be responsible researchers. We don't want to create a panic here. All we're saying is that on an actual day on the actual calendar in the future, runaway microscopic nanobots will end civilization by flooding the planet with the cannabalistic undead.
Science has proven it!

By David Wong, TE Sloth October 29, 2007

Permalink Reply by FreAkSh☭w on June 30, 2009 at 6:40pm

all i can say is. wow.....

Permalink Reply by Komrad Sunyak on June 30, 2009 at 7:44pm

I believe the forces of the supernatural would be behind a zombie outbreak. It would work on a virus-like basis but be jump-started by dark forces. Looking at it on a purely scientific level, how can something thats dead move around freely? A human body is a biological wonder whose life functions allow it to operate as the perfect machine. Without blood circulation you would have clotting, which should make movement impossible. I'm old fashioned. I'm gonna go with a little Voo-doo.

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